| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 3 post(s) |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
813
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 10:05:00 -
[1] - Quote
SmokinDank wrote:How does one add to the topic? By agreeing? Yeah that's a great discussion.
Dammit why do I let this loser keep trolling me?
Just saying no isnt adding to the topic https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
813
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 10:07:00 -
[2] - Quote
Anyway local is a terrible easy mode mechanic. It makes intel gathering need 0 effort and solo pvp ****. If these big groups have so much coordination why not have one member watch the gates cloaked? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
817
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 14:38:00 -
[3] - Quote
Local is **** in empire low too. Someone can camp a gate and know exactly who is coming. This means any attempt to attack a camp results in them running and blue balls. The problem with eve is that it is actually possible to be effectively invincible anywhere unless your a ****, partly because you are omnipotent. The only place local should stay is hisec because of the need to find specific people in a massive crowd. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
817
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 14:54:00 -
[4] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Commander Ted wrote:Anyway local is a terrible easy mode mechanic. It makes intel gathering need 0 effort and solo pvp ****. [snipped] Yeah, a "solo pvp is dead" discussion is a close cousin of this one. Solo pvp isn't quite dead, in null sec at least. But your choice of targets is pretty narrow. Going down any nullsec pipe will result in a camp quickly forming for the sole purpose of killing you or everyone being aligned to warp away the moment you enter local.
There arent even any solo pvpers for the solo pvpers to fight! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
817
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 15:01:00 -
[5] - Quote
Orti Dian wrote: The OP is not an explorer, he is a single player that wants to be able to kill masses of ships in null space solo. Please read his other threads... Also, what would you explore? There's nearly nothing in null sec as it is, with the removal of miners and PVE players, you'd only find the moon goo shippers. You might find PvP players during ops.
I'm not saying it's the only thing letting null sec players hold their space. I'm simply saying the reward would not be good enough to stay there vs the cos of sov. It would be too risky to pay billions of isk to stay there, when you could simply take a few wormholes and make nearly the same with less risk, and a shorter trip to high sec. Why the **** would an alliance pay billions of isk to have what would essentially be a hotdroppable wormhole 30 jumps from high sec. You realise sov isn't free right?
Your running under the assumption that using dscan is hard, that there are enough quality wormholes around, that wormholes arent often one jump from hisec without you even knowing/a ***** to live in, and that everyone isnt already in hisec doing missions anyway. Also who is gonna build dem supercaps? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
818
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 15:14:00 -
[6] - Quote
Orti Dian wrote: Why would anyone need supercaps if they weren't fighting over sov? If sov wasn't worth it, supercaps wouldn't be needed.
Yea nobody would want a ship that is immune to ewar, capable of giving massive reps, is immune to warp scramblers, does thousands of dps that decimates any normal capital, or one capable of moving entire fleets across lightyears instantly to a cyno you can light anywhere in system.
Also the rest of my points still stand. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
818
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 15:29:00 -
[7] - Quote
Orti Dian wrote: Most supercaps are used by null alliances. It's not often I'm blasting through low sec screaming "Check out that nyx!" My point is, that if sov space was decreased in value (it's value is already pretty low) that there would be no reason to fight over it. So supercaps would become less of a thing.
You other points were? All I saw is you wrongly accusing me of thinking dscan is hard, and telling me that a wormhole with a high sec static would be more than 1 jump away from high? DScan doesn't work on a covops, which the OP and most hotdroppers fly. and high sec static guarantees a 1 jump to a high sec system. Operating out of one for the ore, then isk grinding high sec incursions is very profitable.
If a covops shows up it cant lock you before you warp and will have almost 0 tank. Also you would be very wrong about supers in lowsec. Also since none of the things i listed are true, nullbears will be just fine SO I GUESS UR WRONG. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
819
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 22:43:00 -
[8] - Quote
Orti Dian wrote: L O L Yeah must be it. Low sec is just crawling with supers all over. And covert ops ships never kill anything solo. You must be one of them geniuses. My sincerest apologies, I didn't realise you were a nub.
Such tricks only work on the moronic and weak. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |

Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
819
|
Posted - 2013.08.14 22:46:00 -
[9] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Here's my KISS solution: just eliminate local in low and null.
Regardless of which side of the fence you fall on, here's the simple rationale: it will encourage droves of players to venture out of high-sec for parts unknown. Why? Because players will actually have a reasonable chance of slipping into a system undetected. And once there, it will require actual WORK to scan them down: D-scan, combat probes or methodically visiting locations. This applies equally to both predator and prey.
Definitely, the mechanics of Eve are such that once you become competent in the games core mechanics your are pretty much invulnerable be a predator or prey and the only people you find are people ballsy enough to risk there ship for no gain or noobs. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
| |
|